a Group of doctors has launched a website with a “memory List” of physicians who died during the pandemic coronavirus. Now it has 74 names.
We caught up with one of the project creators Alex Ehrlich, head of the Department of resuscitation and intensive therapy for cardiac patients, by a cardiologist ГБУ3 “City clinical hospital № 29 named. N. Uh. Bauman”.
Alexei Ehrlich – quiet voice, level, calm tone. Emotions are like erased. The conversation was short. And sad.
– Alexey, the list of dead doctors continues to grow?
– fortunately, last night did not have time to grow.
In Italy, too, was of such a list?
– many countries do that. Americans gather lists.
You guys just issued the call in social networks to colleagues talked about the dead doctors and showered with messages?
– Yes, that’s exactly what we happened.
Medics responded at once?
– In General, Yes, immediately.
In the media were not all of the names of deceased doctors?
– Not all, but probably cost about each health worker to write at least a couple of lines.
each hospital, which pereprofilirovanie under covid, sick doctors. This is inevitable?
– Not all hospitals sick, but many doctors are sick, really.
– the Main cause of infection, in the “weak” protection?
– I don’t think it is necessary to highlight one reason. Plays the role of a combination of factors. Each hospital has its own problems. In particular, wrong use of medical remedies.
– That is, not everyone is able to wear a costume?
– Usually the staff is trained, tell how to put on and take off the overalls, mask, gloves.
the Slightest mistake can lead to infection?
– the Slightest mistake can cause the infection gets to the skin when a person will enter the “red zone.”
– More protected doctors who work in hospitals, initially equipped with a coronavirus?
– Yes, I think so. They protection better, the institution is divided into “dirty”, “clean” zone.
– So the most vulnerable is the local doctors, the staff of the clinics and workers of conventional hospitals?
the Precinct also go protection. Polyclinics and a General hospital is less safe.
– You work in a public hospital?
– this week it redeveloped under Covid.
Already started to work?
– While sitting on the quarantine because I have a test positive. In my Department sick employees, so it is closed on quarantine.
How long have you been quarantined?
– one week left to see out.
Cardiologists, orthopedists and other specialists are urgently perioeci��are working with virus patients. How is the training?
– Formally, all doctors have received online training on a special portal on the basics of treatment of coronavirus infection. In fact, to treat such patients, special knowledge is not required. Unless severe patients with comorbidities require care by specialists. In other cases, simple approaches to treatment.
– Say that not all of the dead during a pandemic, included in the statistics. If test coronavirus the deceased was negative, but symptoms on the face, the pathologist did not write in conclusion that the patient died from the coronavirus?
I can’t answer this question. The pathologist has their own reasons to diagnose the virus. Although during an epidemic can be attributed to coronavirus pneumonia almost all of the dead. Not always positive, the tests time to come.
– That is, if the patient has the appropriate symptoms, we can safely say that the man died from Covid-19?
– I think, most likely that is exactly what you need to consider. Although you still need to try to diagnose.
In Russia during the epidemic of perform autopsy?
– Yes.
– many countries have refused to carry out?
I do not know as in other countries. In fact, we also do not all hold. But, as far as I know, if the relatives of the deceased insist on the autopsy, they not deny.
All the doctors from the “memory List” included in the statistics?
We don’t have statistics, just published information that you can gather our forces. No statistics for it. It is the memory of our fallen colleagues.
In St.-Petersburg are going to open a memorial Board to doctors who died during the epidemic.
I heard that the memorial going to devote to the doctors. Not quite right. Among the dead are a nurse, lab assistant, nurses and other doctors. Well, if such a monument will put all health care workers.
are You surprised that now the doctors began to boldly talk about the problems.
– You think so. Not all began to undress. The farther from Moscow, the less they say. People are afraid to lose work.
infected And you are not afraid?
– the Bosses fear most.
– Perhaps we shall see more revelations?
– If you have that hope there, you’re an optimist. Why until now nobody has shared their problems? Here and then say nothing.
I thought that after the coronavirus life doctors will change for the better?
– Nothing will change, it will only get worse. Globally, the healthcare system will be worse.
– In any case, the regional hospitals will remain ventilators, whichx was not there before.
– From the fact that someone bought a CT scanner, it became better not. Not in the ventilator case. If to address health issues from the experience of such force majeure, then the decision will be taken wrong – they do not touch our daily problems.
– Many doctors will retire after the epidemic?
No.
Surely will those who receive wages, conditional, 15 thousand rubles?
– Where to go.
– But the epidemic has shown how important doctors, and their work should be assessed much higher?
the Value of medicine in the eyes of the people increased for the first three weeks of the epidemic. It will take another three weeks, and the doctors again become enemies. I’m telling you, almost sure of it.
– But doctors save people’s lives?
– Let’s see. Will get back after 3 weeks.
