an open letter to the daughter of the writer Eduard Uspensky – Tatyana in which she he accused his father the cruelty of the relatives, wives, children and grandchildren, and also opposed the appropriation of his name the new award for Children’s literature, has caused a powerful wave. We talked with an old friend Eduard Uspensky, writer, screenwriter, author of many great cartoons Mikhail Lipskerov.
– You were friends for many years with Eduard Nikolayevich?
When my son turned four years old, his cot, went to Tanya, the daughter of Edward as soon as she was born. And in 1973, was born my younger son, and the cot is back in our family. Here is the story of our friendship. We know even at the stage. In recent years, I spoke with Eddie very much, but knew what was happening to him, talked about his lawsuit with Leonid Shvartsman (artistic Director of the film Cheburashka and Crocodile Gena – Ed.).
– What do you think about the statement Tatyana Uspenskaya?
– of course, I read her letter. The world is big and interesting. Here and there comes up some nonsense. What to say about the words of Tatiana, expressed in the letter and in her interview – a very unpleasant story. Let’s order.
About the alcoholism. The only problem that Edik was with alcohol that he could not drink. But it is for this reason almost never drank, as I remember it. Now as to the cult of Victor Stolbun (Tatiana Uspenskaya even before the open letter talked about the so-called sect of Victor Stolbun faced in childhood, and which was supported by her father – Ed.). Stolbun – psychologist and psychiatrist. He had state accreditation, addressed us at the Studio “Soyuzmultfilm”, helped a great number of famous people whose names I have no right to call.
Stolbun helped to cope not only with alcoholism but with intractable asthma. He pulled people. In the camp mentioned by Tatiana in his interviews, he was invited to help in the fight against alcoholism in the town of Dmitrov. And alcoholism, when it decreased. Teenagers handed over to him officially. It is not a sect. Maybe he used some unconventional methods. To some it helped, some don’t.
Now, about the dislike of children. Edik – two sick foster girls. Here is the love for children or not? What is this love expressed? Need to caress, to tateshots, run with them? In 90-e years when all life was hard, Edward received the publisher a lot of money in the bag. He divided them into two parts, and one that is more related to the orphanage. What he said doesn’t like kids, most likely, shocking.
– the Main charge related to family violence��m
I was acquainted with his first wife Rimula. We talked in 1960-1970, when they lived on Filevsky Park. Then he bought a big apartment on the street Usievicha with Cabinet. Lived there Rimula, Tanya and him. As far as I know, he left the apartment Rimula. And then built a house.
About his infidelities. Well, did, probably. I don’t know. But not only him. Tatiana I don’t understand. Whatever the father was, can not do so. It’s something like Pavlik Morozov. I do not fit in the head.
But it’s hard to judge what a person feels, if he really was abused.
I Understand, but I first heard about it. I haven’t watched the showdown that happened on television. That has never bothered me. But other people are not heard to have ever raised the issue of domestic violence. This is something new. Never during previous battles, and before the death of Edward, and after his death, this issue was not a problem. Only now it originated.
Now is the time of secret confessions.
– Yes! With the harassment got all. What a bullshit! Dinosauria refused to dinosaurs so they died. I don’t understand this.
– A Tatiana sympathize. So many years lived in pain and now came out.
– And why it’s now out there? Why? I’m with her 70-ies did not communicate. I do not fit in the head purely human position.
to Demand to cancel the award – prohibitive. Edward the great children’s writer. Great! Neither in Russia nor in the Soviet Union, this was not. We had “People scattered through the yard” Marshak, “Moidodyr” Chukovsky. All! I don’t know the other characters, who would go to the people. Remember Cheburashka, heroes of Buttermilk. How many books and wonderful poems he wrote! How many TV shows, many radio shows did. When to engage in domestic violence, have problems with alcohol with such a performance? It is not clear. God is her judge.
– the animation community to Eduard Uspensky is also a complex relationship, I would say dislike.
– Yes, we at “Soyuzmultfilm” a very negative attitude because of the history Cheburashka. Do you remember the characters of Dickens?
Remember. We grew up on them.
– And the name of the Illustrator remember?
No.
– That’s all! Why Leonid Shvartsman, with all my love to him, lost to the process? Because by law, he – not the author. By law he has the copyright on the character, but not the property. In addition, he acted within the performance of their job responsibilities. Edward wanted to give him a lot of money just so humanly. I talked to him on the subject. But Venus refused, and demanded a half. Edward did not go to it, and by law had the right.
But has��e Leonid Shvartsman something paid?
Nothing. A few days ago he wrote: I was not able to prove that I am the author of Cheburashka. This story is taking a long time. Edward defended their copyright and thereby protected the rights of other authors.
Recently, once again emerged the story of Cheburashka, associated with the Japanese contract and the fact that until a certain date, we do not have a right to it.
I know. The “Soyuzmultfilm” and “Buttermilk” the problems started. And the Studio failed to win by not allowing a case. He was offered a lot of money, entered into a contract. Edward knew he was dying, and he needed to ensure his adoptive daughters, who work never can. He had powerful lawyers, and they won the case, proved that the Studio has no right to the continuation of the “Buttermilk”.
Why foster daughter of Edward N. can’t work?
Because they are disabled.
– How did they live?
– With foster mother Lena in their home in Troitsk. Elena Borisovna – the second and simultaneously, the fourth wife of Edward. Everything that happens now around his name, disgusting and dirty. Walking corpse is bad. So just things like that are not.
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