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Ukraine’s problem is not so much in the management of its internal processes from abroad, but in the absence of any control. About this, commenting on the scandal "films Poroshenko and Biden," said Friday the head of the Executive Committee for the reform of Ukraine Mikhail Saakashvili.

"the Problem of Ukraine is not under external management or the presence of external control, the problem of Ukraine in the absence of any control. First of all there where it should be – public administration", – he said on air of the Ukrainian TV channel "1+1" concerning scandal with audio.

Non-faction MP Andriy Derkach on Tuesday at a press conference released the recordings of telephone conversations, which, according to him, the ex-President of Ukraine Petro Poroshenko, former Vice President of USA Joseph Biden and the former head of state Department John Kerry to discuss the internal politics of Ukraine. The MP said that one of the topics of conversations that allegedly took place in late 2015 and in 2016, was the all American party " $ 1 billion in exchange for the preservation schemes of the company Burisma," which is associated with the son of Joe Biden hunter.

Records also contain other information, which speak of the intervention of the American politicians in the Affairs of Ukraine. In particular, Biden advises to nationalize Privat, while in the United States came to power Donald trump. Poroshenko also reports about the increase of tariffs for the population and the reform of state-owned enterprises.

These records, according to Derkach, submitted to the office of the attorney General for investigation of possible treason on the part of the former head of the Ukrainian state.